The Aksaray Malakli

The Aksaray Malakli

Postby sunnyAK on 3. November 2014, 18:16

The Aksaray Malakli

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Although the Anatolian Mastiff name is sometimes incorrectly used for the Kangal and other Coban Kopegi breeds in the West, it should be noted that this is actually a separate breed, said to be older than other dogs found in modern Turkey. The most common local name is Malak, which describes the type, rather than the breed of dog. In some parts of Anatolia the name used to describe this variety is Balak, but all of these dogs have the same basic "old mastiff" type, with only slight regional differences. Due to the many fanciers' disapproval of the use of word "mastiff" for the description of their dogs, the breed has been given the new name of Central Anatolian Shepherd Dog. While this decision may appease those who wish to avoid accusations of Turkish Mastiffs being English Mastiff crosses, the Central Anatolian Shepherd Dog moniker is also somewhat controversial and borderline nonsensical, simply because these dogs are neither found exclusively in Central Anatolia nor are they actual shepherd dogs at all, they are indeed Mastiffs. Commonly encountered in many areas, such as Nevsehir, Maras, Konya, Aksaray, Denizli, Agri, Erzurum, Burdur and many other parts of Turkey where dog fights are popular, some of these regional types are considered to be distinct "breeds" by their fanciers, as is the case with the Aksaray Dog, Tuzkoy Dog and some others, but they all simply consitute a single breed comprising of local types, close enough to the great Kangal to confuse some researchers, but different enough from it in key aspects to be treated as a separate variety. The remarkable similarities to the old drawings of Assyrian war-dogs have led some fanciers to link the Turk Mastiff to the legendary Assyrian Mastiff breed, while others dismiss these native Turkish Molossers as recent crosses between the Central Asian Shepherd Dogs, Kangals, Saint Bernards, Great Danes and English Mastiffs. There is also a theory implying that this is simply an Azerbaijani Kanjal type of the Caucasian stock, but this is unlikely, even though some Anatolian Mastiffs do contain a percentage of the Kars Shepherd, through which the influence of the Azeri dogs is possible. The mighty Dakhmarda has also been suggested as a possible ancestor, but the Turkish Mastiff's ancestry is most likely connected to the ancient Hittites and probably rooted in the old working dogs of Persia and Greece.
Relatively unknown even in its homeland, this rugged giant is oftentimes unfairly overlooked and mistaken for a Kangal or a Kangal cross. While certain regional types do show the influence of the Kangal, it doesn't automatically relegate them to the status of a subtype of the Kangal breed, even though quite a few of these dogs have been exported to Europe as such. Due to the popularity of dog fighting tournaments, the Turks have been crossing dogs from various areas for a long time in order to create superiour fighters, so some confusion regarding the actual background of such dogs when judged solely on physical appearance is to be expected. Some dogs are fairly lean and tall, while others are more massive and have larger heads, since there is a few different types of the Malak that can be found in various regions of Turkey, from examples that resemble heavier Kangals and Yoruk Sheepdogs to those specimens that are more similar to certain European mastiff breeds.
Reportedly vicious and fairly difficult to train, the Turk Mastiff is primarily a fighter and guard dog. The majority of these powerful Molossers spend most of their lives chained up as yard watchdogs, released only when they're taken to regional fighting tournaments.

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While they are sometimes used to protect larger cattle, these Mastiffs are rarely employed as sheep herders or guardians, primarily due to their aggression levels and difficulties of working alongside other dogs, but also because of their large size, weight and limited agility and stamina expected from shepherds.
This old working breed is described as an one-person dog, devoted to its owner and protective of its family, but very unfriendly towards strangers and intolerant of other dogs
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Broad-shouldered, massive and muscular, the Turkish Mastiff is a rugged, well-boned and healthy breed, valued for its resilience and sharp temperament. The dense flat coat is shorter than that of Kangals, but not as short as the coat of an English Mastiff. Due to common matings with the Kangal, some Anatolian Mastiffs have longer coats and curled tails, but a typical representative of the breed will differ from these working crossdogs. The tail is sometimes docked and the ears can be either cropped or left natural, depending on the dog's use and the owner's preference, but the majority of modern examples are unaltered.
The Malak comes in a variety of colourings, including the Kangal-like shades of fawn with a black mask, as well as brown, grey, red, cream or brindle, with or without small white markings on the muzzle, chest and feet, but there are also quite a few white-based dogs with large patches of those colours. Average height for the Turkish Mastiff is around 34 inches, although smaller examples can be found as well.

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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby 1234 on 22. November 2014, 17:58

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Postby freed on 22. November 2014, 20:49

@ 1234

:o :shock: What a beast!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby 1234 on 23. November 2014, 17:19

I know lol! I love his structure!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby Varna on 25. November 2014, 04:57

1234 wrote:I know lol! I love his structure!


Will you maybe get one? Their personality seems to be of pure Mastiff type in many ways like a Fila Brazileiro, only that they are also true fighting dogs and don't do well in packs. (Pretty dog aggressive.)
I like the one you showed. They should not look like Kangals!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby sunnyAK on 25. November 2014, 15:20

Varna wrote:
1234 wrote:I know lol! I love his structure!


Will you maybe get one? Their personality seems to be of pure Mastiff type in many ways like a Fila Brazileiro, only that they are also true fighting dogs


Very attached to the owners, so here they are similar. But I guess most are more confident than the average Fila Brazileiro these days.
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby 1234 on 24. December 2014, 19:32

Would live to own this breed in the future!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby sunnyAK on 24. December 2014, 22:38

1234 wrote:Would live to own this breed in the future!



That would be great indeed! Would you also prefer the "Ala type". Ala stands for white with brown marks.
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby 1234 on 25. December 2014, 00:31

Yes I love the Ala type!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby freed on 25. December 2014, 06:00

1234 wrote:Yes I love the Ala type!


I agree they look great, especially in this colour.
@1234 I know it is a working dog & fighting dog, but unlike with Kangals you don't have the big breeders. So would you know where to go to to buy such a dog? I guess there are also no websites, so it is not a big commercial business.
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Postby 1234 on 25. December 2014, 20:40

No I don't but I have some contacts in Turkey that could search for me.
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Postby freed on 3. January 2015, 06:13

1234 wrote:No I don't but I have some contacts in Turkey that could search for me.


I don't like the brindle ones and don't like Kangal colour. So the white one with brown patches are unique and maybe the purest strains! So if you find a breeders in all your research, please post it here. Thank you a lot!
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby steven on 27. February 2015, 15:38

nice 2 see that more people found the turkisch mastiff.
I know a long time ago when i was on tons dogforum..i think andreas was also a member..we made a list of favorite dogs to own..i had the aksaray on my list and most of the members didnt hear of this breed..i love this dog..this is for me the real mastiff of old!..not the big fat englisch mastiff.
I would love 2 own one 1day..but you really need the contacts...wich i dont have...talked with a turkisck vriend and mabey he could ask..we will see..I also see on internet that they should be verry alloof..lets say agressif with strangers..but what i read that some people incounterd them and they were quit friendly...i hope they are more like the fila and co temperament wise..but if they are more like kangals i will not like that..they are more dog agressive insteat of people agressive..the kangals ive seen lack the quality of good guarddogs..mabey you guys got other good experiments with proper kangals with good guarding instincts.
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby sunnyAK on 28. February 2015, 03:45

steven wrote:nice 2 see that more people found the turkisch mastiff.
I know a long time ago when i was on tons dogforum..i think andreas was also a member..we made a list of favorite dogs to own..i had the aksaray on my list and most of the members didnt hear of this breed..i love this dog..this is for me the real mastiff of old!..not the big fat englisch mastiff.
I would love 2 own one 1day..but you really need the contacts...wich i dont have...talked with a turkisck vriend and mabey he could ask..we will see..I also see on internet that they should be verry alloof..lets say agressif with strangers..but what i read that some people incounterd them and they were quit friendly...i hope they are more like the fila and co temperament wise..but if they are more like kangals i will not like that..they are more dog agressive insteat of people agressive..the kangals ive seen lack the quality of good guarddogs..mabey you guys got other good experiments with proper kangals with good guarding instincts.


Great to see you active again Steven. I have missed you allready. You are right, if you have a good Aksaray Malakli it is like having an old time Mastiff in nowadays society. Now that you mention Ton, I don´t have his email-account. We should invite him. Haha having a reunion of the old style guys. 8-)
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby 1234 on 28. February 2015, 17:13

I think that there is a common misconception that LGD dogs are all man aggressive this is definitely not the case and I really see this with my CAO whose parents and grandparents where used as LGD.
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby steven on 1. March 2015, 09:37

Yes..Ton..haha..dont know were he is.also this arun guy with his himalayen tibatan mastiffs..is he here?
The last time that i red of ton he owned a female fila and think still had his tosa.
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby steven on 1. March 2015, 09:48

1234 wrote:I think that there is a common misconception that LGD dogs are all man aggressive this is definitely not the case and I really see this with my CAO whose parents and grandparents where used as LGD.

Nice men you got a cao..i love those dogs..like the aborigenal cas more and the volkodov..north cacasian sheperd..but a coa i really like 2 own some day..
And i know that a guarddog dont have 2be agressive 2 people and a good judgement is good and come in 2 action if the person starts 2 be agressive..but most kangals i saw had no guard instinct at all..they were just big retrievers...and that is just nonsense!
How is the guard instinct of your cao..i really like 2 know..do you have some stories?
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Re: The Aksaray Malakli

Postby freed on 2. March 2015, 02:45

steven wrote:
1234 wrote:I think that there is a common misconception that LGD dogs are all man aggressive this is definitely not the case and I really see this with my CAO whose parents and grandparents where used as LGD.

Nice men you got a cao..i love those dogs..like the aborigenal cas more and the volkodov..north cacasian sheperd..but a coa i really like 2 own some day..
And i know that a guarddog dont have 2be agressive 2 people and a good judgement is good and come in 2 action if the person starts 2 be agressive..but most kangals i saw had no guard instinct at all..they were just big retrievers...and that is just nonsense!
How is the guard instinct of your cao..i really like 2 know..do you have some stories?


I have often heard that this is something that turned-off a lot of people from Kangals and Turkish dogs in general. They had no real guarding instinct.
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